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post #1 of 18 Old 05-20-2019, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
 
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Seeing some elevated temps in this car, even stock.

Last year with the car fully stock at VIR I could bring the car into the yellow on Water temps. Now this didn't super concern me as the outside temp was just brutal 100ish out and 30 minute sessions.

Late last year I had the car tuned/soul performance cat-less exhaust. I could get the cars water temps into the yellow on our typical fairly hard mountain drive. Its 33 miles and 489 corners. By maybe 2/3rd's through I would see higher temps. I have since re-tuned the car and it runs so much better but yesterday had our first run of the year up on the mountain and I saw 221 water temp and 248 Oil Temp after roughly 9 miles of hard driving. Now the car wasn't blowing any warnings or anything and to be fair I was behind someone fairly close NOT in clean air. On the return trip I took the lead and was in clean air the whole time and saw 203 as a high water temp.

Here is my concern. I have a VIR trip coming in July, its hot out there and I do not want to have issues on our 30 minute sessions out there.

So what if anything can be done to this car to be sure I am good on cooling. Is there room for larger intercoolers/radiators/Oil Coolers? Should I look at different coolant?
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You might check/PM with @XPRD.

Also Hyper developed a HCAS (Coolant Assist System) that may be useful

http://hyperfastcars.com/hyper800/

If you choose to try any race coolants it would be advisable to flush the system and replace with the factory coolant after each race. There are additives in the factory coolant that reduce ionic wear on the metals used in the motor.
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I would take it to a fab shop and have then custom make larger coolers.
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You might check/PM with @XPRD.

Also Hyper developed a HCAS (Coolant Assist System) that may be useful

http://hyperfastcars.com/hyper800/

If you choose to try any race coolants it would be advisable to flush the system and replace with the factory coolant after each race. There are additives in the factory coolant that reduce ionic wear on the metals used in the motor.
I just messaged XPRD.
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I would take it to a fab shop and have then custom make larger coolers.
Any idea if there is even room?

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Any idea if there is even room?
Yes you can get a core that is about an inch thicker. Some plastic panels, bracketry will be need to be cut in order to make all this work.
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I had these on my 12C and they worked well. Don't know if they offer them for the 570 but it's good to ask

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I called the Hyperfast guys yesterday. Great guys. No 570s option yet, they said in R&D now.

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Isolate the cooling circuit of the intake of the engine water circuit

same as mclaren GT cars
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CSF is coming with bigger intercoolers.
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Isolate the cooling circuit of the intake of the engine water circuit

same as mclaren GT cars
That is is good idea. We used to do this on the E55 AMG cars.
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Isolate the cooling circuit of the intake of the engine water circuit

same as mclaren GT cars
What's involved in doing that? I know only enough to be trouble LOL

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In combination with XPRD, yes.
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bigger intercoolers is a wrong path.
the water of the intercoolers is shared with the motor.
the water of the engine is always between 90 c - 110 c (194 f- 230f)
it is the same water that cools the intake and will be at this temperature
however large the interocooler may be, it will always be at the same temperature as the engine water.
The ideal is a separate circuit for the water of the engine and another one for the water of the intercoolers of the intake

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bigger intercoolers is a wrong path.
the water of the intercoolers is shared with the motor.
the water of the engine is always between 90 c - 110 c (194 f- 230f)
it is the same water that cools the intake and will be at this temperature
however large the interocooler may be, it will always be at the same temperature as the engine water.
The ideal is a separate circuit for the water of the engine and another one for the water of the intercoolers of the intake
I assume nobody has a kit or process for this, it would be a full custom install?

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