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As someone with a new 720s spider on order it will be interesting to see what Trump does with his proposed 25% tariffs on cars and parts coming into the US. Today the commerce department will give their recommendations on whether autos and parts pose a national security issue, which would allow him to impose the tariffs.

For me it would potentially add 90k to my car, which I would not pay. It would really add to the thread of depreciation for the 720. Just imagine paying the tax and the next president comes in and drops the tariffs what a mess for guys buying and paying the increased tax. Just a potential mess.

Hopefully this and the BREXIT stuff works out. If not I see major issues for mclaren here in the US.
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Lol. Heís making us great. Just declared a national emergency then goes golfing at his resort.
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Lol. He’s making us great. Just declared a national emergency then goes golfing at his resort.
Call me crazy, but tired of US citizens being murdered by illegals...yes national emergency.

We can take this thread elsewhere...join us in F Chat Politics thread. You will love it there.

This is 720 talk (even though from your initial post you made it political).

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Call me crazy, but tired of US citizens being murdered by illegals...yes national emergency.

We can take this thread elsewhere...join us in F Chat Politics thread. You will love it there.

This is 720 talk (even though from your initial post you made it political).

No more relies from me here.
Did no such thing. Just stated facts that relate to mclaren and the 720.

Glad to here no more replies from you!!!

Btw with 20 years in LE his wall will not stop anything! Btw Have youíve been to Chicago lately!!!
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What was your logic for putting this on a British car? Ah, trump supporter ..
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If the tariff is imposed, the lucky ones of us that already own Mclaren's in the US will see a huge jump in used prices due to the big jump in new prices. This jump on new cars will limit the cars coming into the US as well as slow the demand due to the additional cost to purchase a high end exotic. Not wanting to sell, but just putting to ease the minds of the owners already in the US.

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So you can only put Trump stickers on American cars?
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Call me crazy, but tired of US citizens being murdered by illegals...yes national emergency.

We can take this thread elsewhere...join us in F Chat Politics thread. You will love it there.

This is 720 talk (even though from your initial post you made it political).

No more relies from me here.
Did no such thing. Just stated facts that relate to mclaren and the 720.

Glad to here no more replies from you!!!

Btw with 20 years in LE his wall will not stop anything! Btw Have you’ve been to Chicago lately!!!
20 yrs in LE? You don’t think it’s a visual deterrent? That wall will absolutely slow down illegals coming into the US from down south. Ask any border patrol agent. It won’t stop 100% of the traffic. Nothing can, but if it saves American lives and helps keep out the riff raff, is it worth it?

What does Chicago have to do with a border wall? I think it was identified as one of the most corrupt cities in the US. Sounds like a local leadership issue. I’m not gonna name any past presidents that may or may not be from there but it’s funny how that city is the most violent in America.

But I would agree that the uptick in tariffs will/could slow down purchases in America? As a current owner I hope it would help the value of my car hold a little more but
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Lol. He’s making us great. Just declared a national emergency then goes golfing at his resort.
I guess he can add it to the list of 31 others:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list...ry?id=60294693
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/polit...oid/index.html

Been a lot of golf played throughout....

That said, let's all try to reel this into the topic of tarriffs affecting imports/mclarens.

Yea, I agree, this will put a major damper on sales. But it depends on if this is on entire cars, or just service parts. Either way, it won't be pretty.
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It wonít stop 100% of the traffic. Nothing can, but if it saves American lives and helps keep out the riff raff, is it worth it?
Do you know what else would save "American lives"? Free basic healthcare. I'm guessing that you're not willing to pay for that.
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How many? How does that compare to those killed by US citizens? I doubt that you actually knew before making that statement.
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It won’t stop 100% of the traffic. Nothing can, but if it saves American lives and helps keep out the riff raff, is it worth it?
Do you know what else would save "American lives"? Free basic healthcare. I'm guessing that you're not willing to pay for that.
You want free basic healthcare? Move to Canada.

Funny how the border wall took a turn for healthcare

How is the homeless situation in San Fran? Are the tent cities working out well? Seems like California has it all figured out.

Edit. Neither of us is going to change the other’s mind so this is pointless. Sorry if I took away from the thread about auto tariffs. The whole auto industry is going to be hit by it so any car that you buy will be an increase. 25% is a lot but it boils down to how bad do you want it and do you really care about the 25% at that point

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20 yrs in LE? You donít think itís a visual deterrent? That wall will absolutely slow down illegals coming into the US from down south. Ask any border patrol agent. It wonít stop 100% of the traffic. Nothing can, but if it saves American lives and helps keep out the riff raff, is it worth it?

What does Chicago have to do with a border wall? I think it was identified as one of the most corrupt cities in the US. Sounds like a local leadership issue. Iím not gonna name any past presidents that may or may not be from there but itís funny how that city is the most violent in America.

But I would agree that the uptick in tariffs will/could slow down purchases in America? As a current owner I hope it would help the value of my car hold a little more but
Not going to get into the wall with you. You donít have a clue so really a waste of my time. My apologies to everyone with this thread getting off topic. This was never my intent.

The tariffs will hurt everyone who owns a mclaren. The 25% tariffs being proposed also includes auto parts. This will drive up costs on repairing and maintaining used cars. Extended warranties, that are already expensive, will skyrocket. The US market is mclarenís top selling market in the world. I think if this happens it will have a long term devastating impact here in the US. For guys like me that donít have a money tree in the back yard it would force me to look elsewhere.

Also remember that the BREXIT issues, that are not resolved, could also end up resulting in added tariffs on that end. This could potentially take the price of a mclaren to a level that just makes no sense for the majority of people.
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As someone with a new 720s spider on order it will be interesting to see what Trump does with his proposed 25% tariffs on cars and parts coming into the US. Today the commerce department will give their recommendations on whether autos and parts pose a national security issue, which would allow him to impose the tariffs.

For me it would potentially add 90k to my car, which I would not pay. It would really add to the thread of depreciation for the 720. Just imagine paying the tax and the next president comes in and drops the tariffs what a mess for guys buying and paying the increased tax. Just a potential mess.

Hopefully this and the BREXIT stuff works out. If not I see major issues for mclaren here in the US.
Although on the subject of economics (and many other subjects) Trump is an imbecile, Steve Mnuchin is a smart guy. So far Steve has been successful in reining in most of Trump's kindergarten-level impulses. It's now looking like the tariff hikes on Chinese imports were a negotiating tactic rather than a strategic shift.

If Trump were to cut the UK off at the knees by slapping a huge tariff on Range Rovers, Jaguars, MINIs, Civics and McLarens, it would be seen in the UK, one of the USA's best friends in the world, as an act of deliberate and gratuitous belligerence. For better or worse, Trump has consistently manifested warm and fuzzy sentiments towards the UK, and one would be surprised if that were to lapse. Trump has stated that he would like to strike a very liberal trade deal with the UK post-Brexit.

If the UK were to end up stuck in some bloody customs union with the EU goons, there would be less protection for UK-specific car imports, but even so it feels like Trump derives more satisfaction by spitting in other directions rather than towards Europe.
I could be wrong, but when it comes to tariffs on car imports from the UK, I wouldn't expect Trump to descend to his usual depths of ignorance.
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