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Lamborghini Huracán Performante



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Enter ALA. Rather than moving a large part around, ALA uses fast-acting, electronically controlled motors to open and close flaps. The Performante has a little flap in the snout , which can open to decrease downforce and drag. That’s cool but not groundbreaking. The groundbreaking part of ALA can be found in the hollow FC wing. Each of the big uprights that support the wing is also hollow. Right under the engine cover sits a pair of small dual-mouthed intakes. One mouth on each feeds cool air onto the hot exhaust, and the other allows air to flow through an upright and into the wing. There’s an outlet on the underside of the wing where the air exits. Like the front flap, the dual flaps can open to reduce drag and close to increase downforce. Or they can open one at a time.

That’s right. Depending on which direction the Performante is turning, either flap can close in 0.2 second to create aero vectoring. Turn right, for instance, and the right flap closes while the left flap opens. With the right flap closed, downforce is exerted on the right rear wheel while the left wheel is looser and free to rotate in an arc. The opposite is true if you turn the car in the other direction. Lamborghini says ALA works between 43 and 193 mph. Any faster than that, and you don’t want to be turning the steering wheel. I asked if they looked into putting aero vectoring on the front axle. Torluccio told me they did, but there was no advantage.

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One last thing: The Performante went very quickly around the Nürburgring Nordschleife. How fast? Well, Lamborghini’s own Aventador Superveloce set a time of 6 minutes, 59.73 seconds. The only production car to ever circumnavigate more quickly is the Porsche 918 Spyder, which laid down an ice-cold 6:57.00. The Huracán Performante? Lambo ain’t saying no matter how many times I ask (Reggiani just smiles at me), but I heard mutterings of “six-fifty-two-something-something [6:52].” That would shatter the Porsche’s record. We’ll find out for sure when Lamborghini pulls the wraps off the Performante in March at the Geneva International Motor Show.
Wow, this sounds like one hell of an upgrade! If true, great going Lambo!
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no chance in hell of that ring time.. and the aero flaps... well that's pagani isn't it.. not really a game changer, but just a bit of dull ole marketing.. .

still fancy one though, along with the chest wig and medallion... 'cannonball'...
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no chance in hell of that ring time.. and the aero flaps... well that's pagani isn't it.. not really a game changer, but just a bit of dull ole marketing.. .

still fancy one though, along with the chest wig and medallion... 'cannonball'...
The proof, certainly, will be in the driving, but I like to keep an open mind. All these advances benefit drivers IMO. As always, YMMV.
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Hey, if an AMG GTR with ~350hp/ton can do a 7:10 lap with a magazine, then why shouldn't a Performante be able to run 6:52?
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aventador sv got under 7 min too
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aventador sv got under 7 min too
Exactly, and factory laps tend to be 12-18s faster than magazine laps in general, so it wouldn't be crazy to think the AMG GTR could go sub-7 too, after all it did lap faster than the 918 (7:13) in terms of Sport Auto laps.
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If 6:52 is true, that would be absolutely incredible. On top of the fact, the car is already gorgeous to begin with.

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If 6:52 is true, that would be absolutely incredible. On top of the fact, the car is already gorgeous to begin with.
I totally believe it's possible. The SV going under 7 has little to do with that car's ability to be a genuine sub 7 car (even putting aside lambo's likely juicing of that car) and more to do with the incredible talents and outrageous risks taken by their driver in pushing that car way beyond. If you watch the 918 run, that car was not pushed nearly as crazily.

Going back to my old point, that the number one factor in time is the driver and their abilities to mesh/push a car.

A good driver will probably kill me in my macca with a Honda Accord on the track. If they used that same lunatic driver or someone like him, I can totally believe it's in the realm of doable.

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Regarding the 'ring time, it would indeed be prudent to keep an open mind

As for the aero, it is not the same implementation as Pagani's, even if in both cases, you can have downforce-per-side. A key difference is that Pagani's flaps are hydraulic (big, heavy, slow), whereas the Performante is using electronic actuators (tiny, light, ultra-fast). Especially on the Nürburgring, the time savings for the numerous high-downforce <-> reduced drag transitions will add up, and as their track time will show, they did add up. Furthermore, the transmission (both hardware and programming) is also updated to better handle the extra torque, with the programming also being a better fit for the 'ring.
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Zero chance that that car does a 6.52... the car that had aventador body work might, but with that ride height, very difficult to see it..
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Zero chance that that car does a 6.52... the car that had aventador body work might, but with that ride height, very difficult to see it..
Unless that huracan had even more special tyres than the aventador sv that did the 6:59..

Actually heck even if it had slicks I'd be hard put to believe a 6:52 from that car.
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Unless that huracan had even more special tyres than the aventador sv that did the 6:59..

Actually heck even if it had slicks I'd be hard put to believe a 6:52 from that car.
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The Performante is very light don't forget and will probably wear Trofeo Rs vs Corsas on SV.

It would be the daftest thing I've seen lately either. I mean which is more ridiculous, a Performante on Trofeo Rs beating an SV by 7s or an AMG GTR beating a 488 by 12s and a 918 by 3s with Sport Auto?
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I totally believe it's possible. The SV going under 7 has little to do with that car's ability to be a genuine sub 7 car (even putting aside lambo's likely juicing of that car) and more to do with the incredible talents and outrageous risks taken by their driver in pushing that car way beyond. If you watch the 918 run, that car was not pushed nearly as crazily.

Going back to my old point, that the number one factor in time is the driver and their abilities to mesh/push a car.

A good driver will probably kill me in my macca with a Honda Accord on the track. If they used that same lunatic driver or someone like him, I can totally believe it's in the realm of doable.

Amazing what you can achieve with a blatant disregard to safety, life and limb.
Oh I absolutely agree! Best modification you can do to a car is a driver-mod haha!

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