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post #256 of 593 Old 05-17-2016, 12:19 PM
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Thanks, Mikey.

Interestingly, a strict pedantic reading of those 3 articles would suggest that Rosberg violated none of them.

- not more than one change of direction,
- he was moving away from the racing line,
- he was not on a straight,
- one cannot know whether his action was deliberate, or he was distracted by his engine mode problem.

The only thing that could be argued is that his manoeuvre was liable to hinder another driver although, on that basis, in every race they'd have to penalise the entire field except possibly the Manors.

Just saying....

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27.7 Any driver defending his position on a straight, and before any braking area, may use the full width of the track during his first move, provided no significant portion of the car attempting to pass is alongside his. Whilst defending in this way the driver may not leave the track without justifiable reason.

For the avoidance of doubt, if any part of the front wing of the car attempting to pass is alongside the rear wheel of the car in front this will be deemed to be a ‘significant portion’.


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Thanks, Mikey.



Interestingly, a strict pedantic reading of those 3 articles would suggest that Rosberg violated none of them.



- not more than one change of direction,

- he was moving away from the racing line,

- he was not on a straight,

- one cannot know whether his action was deliberate, or he was distracted by his engine mode problem.



The only thing that could be argued is that his manoeuvre was liable to hinder another driver although, on that basis, in every race they'd have to penalise the entire field except possibly the Manors.



Just saying....





Thanks @Patricko and @Mikeyb.



NB, I think that's a more selective reading of the rule rather then pedantic I think the video and below still shows that they were indeed and on a straight and for the avoidance of doubt, Lewis's entire front wing and nearly all of his front wheel was alongside Nico's rear wheel

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What a strange species us men are. Clearly we care about this more than anybody in F1 or the FIA.

They crashed.



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NB, I think that's a more selective reading of the rule rather then pedantic I think the video and below still shows that they were indeed and on a straight and for the avoidance of doubt, Lewis's entire front wing and nearly all of his front wheel was alongside Nico's rear wheel
My post was meant to be facetious, but I was mistaken in saying that the crash had not happened on a straight. They both had on so much steering lock that I thought they were still in T3, but I now see that they had exited the bend and were heading towards T4.
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I'm F1 starved here in the US. None of my friends or co-workers watch, so this is my only outlet and let's be honest, the incident was highly controversial. The stakes are as high as they could be this early in the season. I can't wait to see how things play out.
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I'm F1 starved here in the US. None of my friends or co-workers watch, so this is my only outlet and let's be honest, the incident was highly controversial. The stakes are as high as they could be this early in the season. I can't wait to see how things play out.
Do you know this forum?

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If you want to get stuck into discussion and debate about F1 or other Eurocentric forms of motor racing, this is the place to do it. A number of the participants are very well informed although, as one would expect, there also are some puerile morons who must be ignored.
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I'm F1 starved here in the US. None of my friends or co-workers watch, so this is my only outlet and let's be honest, the incident was highly controversial. The stakes are as high as they could be this early in the season. I can't wait to see how things play out.

Same for me, though I'd add Racing starved. I like F1 but also GT and WEC A TON. None of my friends or anyone I know really likes racing or cars for that matter. I come here, a few others, and sometimes try to suffer through fchat.

Was recently put on to Motorsport Magazine and that has been awesome reading.
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Thanks, Mikey.

Interestingly, a strict pedantic reading of those 3 articles would suggest that Rosberg violated none of them.

- not more than one change of direction,
- he was moving away from the racing line,
- he was not on a straight,
- one cannot know whether his action was deliberate, or he was distracted by his engine mode problem.

The only thing that could be argued is that his manoeuvre was liable to hinder another driver although, on that basis, in every race they'd have to penalise the entire field except possibly the Manors.

Just saying....

as long as you don't tell me that 500 examples, coupe only, means 500 spiders is ok, I am happy to run with this... ;-)

with apologies to @nh4 @Peloton25 before they ban me... ;-)
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as long as you don't tell me that 500 examples, coupe only, means 500 spiders is ok, I am happy to run with this... ;-)

with apologies to @nh4 @Peloton25 before they ban me... ;-)
I can assure you that you won't hear me defending, or even being neutral about, MA's decision to make the spiders, as I have made very clear to the folks in Woking.

I don't mind their making the Formula One car as a spider, but that's different.
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as long as you don't tell me that 500 examples, coupe only, means 500 spiders is ok, I am happy to run with this... ;-)

with apologies to @nh4 @Peloton25 before they ban me... ;-)
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Do you know this forum?

http://forums.autosport.com/?_ga=1.1...707.1463170822

If you want to get stuck into discussion and debate about F1 or other Eurocentric forms of motor racing, this is the place to do it. A number of the participants are very well informed although, as one would expect, there also are some puerile morons who must be ignored.
I have not heard of this place but will check it out, thanks for the recommendation.
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I have not heard of this place but will check it out, thanks for the recommendation.
With more than 50,000 racing-related threads, and hundreds of pages just on McLarens of different seasons, there is a lot of stuff there.

I want to call your attention to an amazing thread within the site on the subject of cutaway drawings.

http://http://forums.autosport.com/t...?hl=%20cutaway

There are more than 13,000 posts and thousands of individual drawings, such as this beauty posted only yesterday of a McLaren Formula One car of 45 years ago:
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With more than 50,000 racing-related threads, and hundreds of pages just on McLarens of different seasons, there is a lot of stuff there.

I want to call your attention to an amazing thread within the site on the subject of cutaway drawings.

http://http://forums.autosport.com/t...?hl=%20cutaway

There are more than 13,000 posts and thousands of individual drawings, such as this beauty posted only yesterday of a McLaren Formula One car of 45 years ago:
Amazing. You may have guessed that I've only managed to visit the Spanish GP threads... Will save the McLaren history lessons for the summer break. Thanks again.
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Lots of outlets are reporting that Lewis may miss the Monaco GP this weekend due to some kind of nightclub incident involving stolen pictures. When I first read it, I thought it was preposterous but it now seems to be gaining traction. I hope, whatever has gone on, it doesn't keep Lewis out of the race. Pascal Wehrlein was the driver testing the Merc last week in Monaco and could get the drive if Lewis is out.
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Does this have to do with nudes? Hope there aren't any McLaren or Ferrari blueprints on the phone. Or for that matter any of Nico in the shower.
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