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Old 02-13-2013, 04:03 PM   #2776
 
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The P1's interior actually brings to my mind similar themes and functional styles as did the interiors of the F1 LMs, road legalized F1 GTRs like #13R and #16R, and also the Zonda 760RS - pared-down, raw, performance- and driver-focused, and weight-minimized. It's great.

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hello to everyone. I'm new to the forum. I had the chance to see the car in yellow volcano and sit down inside and I can say that it is wonderful and the finish is just perfect. The interior is much more impressive than the pictures. He has an incredible sense of race. Like the exterior, you can anderstand when you see in real.
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hello to everyone. I'm new to the forum. I had the chance to see the car in yellow volcano and sit down inside and I can say that it is wonderful and the finish is just perfect. The interior is much more impressive than the pictures. He has an incredible sense of race. Like the exterior, you can anderstand when you see in real.
That's incredible jhanu, sounds like you had a fantastic time! Did you manage to spot a chassis or registry number, by any chance?

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not as the person to see the present as P1, the interest was not there but to enjoy this magic moment
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That's all right, I'm just glad you got to enjoy yourself in any case.

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one of you showed a rendering of the P1 in yellow volcano with logo gulf that I found really beautiful. But I can not find it. I have been very happy to see it again. Is it possible to show it one more time? thanks a lot
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That's all right, I'm just glad you got to enjoy yourself in any case.

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yes thank you and I look forward to be in Geneva to know everything about the car
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That's what I love about the 12c's cockpit. It's so damn tastefully done. It's the Tom Ford suit of interiors.

I know I'll get a lot of flak for saying this but I absolutely hate the interior of Pagani's and I'm so glad McLaren have gone in the complete opposite direction. It's the right thing to do. Look how gracefully the interior of the F1 has aged by not being silly.
From a HUGE Zonda fan I have to agree. The interiors have gotten less and less tasteful over the years.

To argue that the interior is not 'special enough' is ludicrous - was the F40 known for its luxurious interior? Hardly.

I love the look of the P1 interior - so simple. You are there to drive, so here is your seat and the few functions you need right at hand.

The interior of the F40 is perhaps one of the most impressive as it harks back to the old days of racing when a seatbelt or door handles would have been counted as luxury! The closer that the P1 is to that, with caveats for some comfort and modern features, the better. Strip out the unnecessary stuff, if I wanted that I would drive my Rolls Royce (not that I have one, but that is besides the point )!
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:36 PM   #2784
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To each their own, but I have to say I disagree regarding the design direction. As I've stated before, McLaren is saving us from Big, Bangled & Bloated. In my opinion, today's supercars (and most road cars in general, actually) have become thick looking, with excess volume added, only to be creased again in an attempt to impart some form or style. And the grilles and headlights are more massive and garish with every new model. I really dislike the trend.

To me, the P1 is bucking that trend and really is one of the only designs recently to offer something completely new. It is in perfect harmony with the McLaren ethos and, consequently, is actually more like an F1 built for today's world than any other supercar out there. Even though the performance will likely smash the F1 into oblivion, as it should. Much of the F1's mystique and legacy revolves around its top speed and although the racecar version won LeMans, I'm pretty sure the P1 will set higher benchmarks for track performance than the road-going F1 did for its time. I don't think McLaren is going to deliver anything other than a revolutionary product.

The impact of the P1's design language will only be fully realized in several years, once some of the features flow down to the rest of the product range. Once McLaren has 3 or 4 models, all shrink-wrapped, techno-brilliant instruments of speed, we'll see if any of the game has been changed. I'm betting Frank and his team will be viewed as visionaries and there will be plenty of imitation cropping up at other car companies, for both exterior and interior design.
I fully agree with your exceedingly apt use of 'big, Bangled and bloated' to describe the way most cars are going these days and in this respect the P1 being smaller and compact has been a pleasant surprise.

Where I have major large issues with about Stephenson's styling is his seeming insistence on using squaliform shapes to style the front grilles of both the P1 and the 12C. The rear of the P1 being as tightly packaged as it is is probably far more an aerodynamic/engineering solution rather than a styling issue so I am not sure I would give Stephenson credit for that. As for the interior, the 12C's is brilliant and the best of any car since the CGT IMO but if I'm wrong, Stephenson has said he joined Mclaren too late to have much influence over the 12C and only amended the front grille and some elements of the rear so again not sure he had much to do with the 12C interior. The P1 interior as I said earlier looks very good though.

I however could not disagree more with your statement ""Much of the F1's mystique and legacy revolves around its top speed"". Top speed and indeed the F1 GTR's racing performance was more a byproduct of the excellence of design and philosophy Gordon Murray brought to the F1 program as the F1 was designed to be a road car first and foremost and certainly was not designed with the top speed record in mind. The P1 of course would be far faster on track than an F1 but the F1 suffers from using relatively antiquated tyre/brake technology. If a F1 LM or even F1 with the HDF could be equipped with modern tyres and brakes, I doubt very much it would suffer anything like as badly compared to the P1 on track performance as one might assume a 20 year old car with no traction control should.

Capable and exceedingly quick the P1 undoubtedly will be, active suspension possibly apart that the P1 might utilise, there is nothing so far I have seen to suggest the P1 has anything genuinely as revolutionary to bring to the ultra high performance car segment now compared to the F1.
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The P1 will kill an earlier McLaren F1 GTR on slicks. It is a HUGE leap forward in terms of performance
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:17 PM   #2786
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Have any horsepower numbers come out yet? Is it roughly 900+bhp? Similar to the f150?
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More pic's for your viewing.

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Nice pics on the past few pages. Really nice.

Seeing the interior in-person & now in-print/on-screen, it still doesn't lose its sense-of-occasion & race-like-demeanor. Admittedly, I wanted more flash & fuzz- but being such a serious & focused platform, it's more than obvious why it's all business & little else.

Easily being the only hyper super-car on the market that I'd want, if I was in the position to even acquire it. And it's not exactly a sparse niche, considering the forthcoming & likely fetching F150, current stylish Huayra, tech marvel 918, and sensory-overload Agera.

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