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post #1 of 15 Old 05-10-2017, 08:35 AM Thread Starter
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Highest Mileage 12C in the world for Sale

Hi Guys,

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I am right.
A year ago, Mclaren put out a small video about the man who was putting 80,000miles per year on his car.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...-mile-mclaren/

I was checking the Swiss Mclaren 12c sales and believe I have found his car. (link below for sale add)
168,000km on the clock
Asking price 99,000 CHF (98k USD).

https://www.autoscout24.ch/fr/d/mcla...p%3d10%26r%3d5
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Testament to the car being reliable usable and fun.
I would love to know what has been done to the car outside its annual service.
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Yea, 104,000 miles is no joke. Wonder what the reasonable life is on a mcallen engine. I know one of the reasons ferrari's are not liked with high mileage, is pretty much all ferrari's experience significant HP loss by 15,000 miles. Even the 458 (not sure about the 488, perhaps it does better).

I wonder how the mclaren engine does in that regard... One would suspect a lot better.
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Yea, 104,000 miles is no joke. Wonder what the reasonable life is on a mcallen engine. I know one of the reasons ferrari's are not liked with high mileage, is pretty much all ferrari's experience significant HP loss by 15,000 miles. Even the 458 (not sure about the 488, perhaps it does better).

I wonder how the mclaren engine does in that regard... One would suspect a lot better.
My 12C was still very healthy at 18k miles, it wasn't showing any sign of dropping power (I have data logs from track days to check against).

The 675 is just shy of 10k miles, will be well over by the end of the month, its looking good too so far!
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My 12C was still very healthy at 18k miles, it wasn't showing any sign of dropping power (I have data logs from track days to check against).

The 675 is just shy of 10k miles, will be well over by the end of the month, its looking good too so far!
Mine just hit 25000 miles. It still feels very good, would be curious to dyno it.

This would be good information. Because I have this on pretty good authority, ferrari's have VERY high variability from car to car. I have a friend that tests all customer cars prior to delivery. Has driven thousands of ferraris. There are 'good ones' and 'not good ones' that come from the factory, so the standard deviation is high. And he says, at least up until and including the 458, you basically have 15,000 miles before the engine HP drops off significantly and need a rebuild to get it back.

I think mclaren's car-to-car builds are much more consistent (always lemons in any car) and the standard deviation from lemons to hero cars is much smaller.

Would be interesting to get some high mile mclarens dyno'd to figure out if and when there is an HP drop off.
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Hi Guys,

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I am right.
A year ago, Mclaren put out a small video about the man who was putting 80,000 miles per year on his car.
Yes, I believe that is the same one.

But to clarify, he had put 80,000 miles (130,0000 km) on his car in three and a half years, not "per year". So now at 104,000 miles (168,000 km), the car has done about 20,000 miles per year. That's a lot of driving!
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Yea, 104,000 miles is no joke. Wonder what the reasonable life is on a mcallen engine. I know one of the reasons ferrari's are not liked with high mileage, is pretty much all ferrari's experience significant HP loss by 15,000 miles. Even the 458 (not sure about the 488, perhaps it does better).

I wonder how the mclaren engine does in that regard... One would suspect a lot better.
If a 12C will take another 200 HP then they are quite under stressed.
As for Ferrari's and mileage not sure thats correct as I know modern V12s just get better, a 456 recently came up for sale with 180,000 miles on the original engine.
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He's really reaching if he's asking $100K lol
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If a 12C will take another 200 HP then they are quite under stressed.
As for Ferrari's and mileage not sure thats correct as I know modern V12s just get better, a 456 recently came up for sale with 180,000 miles on the original engine.
Well take it for what it's worth, but I trust the guy telling me this. He still works for Ferrari testing and delivering customer cars. That said, it's internet hearsay on a McLaren forum, so wise to take very thing with plenty of salt.
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100,000+ miles on any supercar is impressive, regardless the make. This is super cool!
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He's really reaching if he's asking $100K lol
I'm not sure I'd agree with that... its a helluva price and seemingly this car has been driven more "highway" miles and fewer "point and squirt" miles, so I'd imagine it's in pretty good shape. If he threw in a 1-year warranty from the dealer in that price, I'd say there isn't another car in that price range that can compete.
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Looks like car is sold or has been removed.

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I'm not sure I'd agree with that... its a helluva price and seemingly this car has been driven more "highway" miles and fewer "point and squirt" miles, so I'd imagine it's in pretty good shape. If he threw in a 1-year warranty from the dealer in that price, I'd say there isn't another car in that price range that can compete.
Dave I agree and the materials and the oils in particular used in modern cars and super cars is quantum leap over classic super cars of the 70s and 80s. This car will also serve as a bonus to McLaren data wise.
I would for one be interested in how the ancillaries went like the direct drive starter/alternator and the systems hydraulics and sensors.
Did any get the build no?
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I would not worry about power loss due to high millage. My 2012 12C has over 57,000 miles and feels quick as ever.
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