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post #1 of 22 Old 04-17-2017, 06:21 PM Thread Starter
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Whose wrecked 12C is this?

Anyone's here?

I wonder what the story is behind this car. Notwithstanding anything unseen and the limp mode being on, the bodywork looks completely repairable to me.

Pretty shocking if this 12c was written off with this amount of visible damage.


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I know McLaren has a full palette of colors, but the 12C really looks awesome in Black
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Hell, the IRIS2 is worth 10% of the car at it's current bid heh.
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Hell, the IRIS2 is worth 10% of the car at it's current bid heh.
Yeah. I was thinking that it is likely worth a lot more than the current bid in spares.
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Current bid is only $38,000. What do you think it will go for?
Not sure, BAT is a great auction site to find gems. But sometimes the price can shoot up in the last few hours. Bargain at $38K though, especially with a clean CarFax.

Its got to belong to someone we know...


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post #7 of 22 Old 04-17-2017, 11:16 PM
 
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The car has way more than $38K worth of parts. No way it goes that low.
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post #8 of 22 Old 04-18-2017, 02:38 AM
 
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lots of good parts on it for sale
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I think the seller devalued the car by posting it on the internet, because it will always have the perception of a salvaged title. I'm sure it will go to a dismantler. Good clean 12Cs are cheap and readily available. There's a reason the car is being sold and not repaired.
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I've bid for several cars on BAT, and my experience is that whatever the price is on the day before close, it will double in the final run-up to the deadline. BAT is also an open-ended auction; after the deadline is reached, you have two minutes to post a higher bid, and so on until bidders give up. My last attempt went on for a long time after the deadline because everyone kept posting last minute bids
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BAT is a venue that rewards sellers of unmodified cars in pristine condition with complete documented history and complete transparency no gaps or flags in story.
This example will not do well based on my past observations.
Even a dismantler will shy away from a reasonable bid, since without the back-story no way to assess risk of engine damage, transmission and undercarriage exposed component damage.

This car may be a gem (at final bid price) or not,
this Seller can afford to lift reserve at very low bid price, it is clear he does not want to risk his reputation by making any claims to road worthiness or risk putting any less than 100% verifiable third party knowledge out there.

Have seen on BAT a few modified track use cars that went way below value based on reputation of fabricator, component quality and engineering behind build.
The constant was the wealthy seller did not want to incur liability by making claims of performance; structural or otherwise on a modified car no longer the original Manufacturer's responsibility for safety due to modifications of, or casting aside engineered OEM components for after-market parts.

Mclaren is not liable for unrepaired or not replaced hidden damage components that may fail in the future causing a potential injury accident

This risk would make me consider the car for track use only but not for resale or road use, I do not have a price in mind that would make me take this on.
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I dunno... McLaren parts are expensive and a lot of stuff on that car looks flawless. The interior alone is worth a pretty substantial amount.
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I dunno... McLaren parts are expensive and a lot of stuff on that car looks flawless. The interior alone is worth a pretty substantial amount.
recent BAT comment:


"Iíve worked on these, and actually have some of the parts this car may need. Iíve had them on my shelf for quite some time, and havenít been able to sell them. So as far as parting this thing out, youíll be sitting on it for a very long time, because there simply isnít a lot of these cars on the road to get wrecked/damaged.

As for repairing it, I donít know what the reserve is set at, but thereís not much left on the bone where the price currently sits ($47k = $49,350 with BAT fee)"
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Yea, I guess that's true. I guess a dealer would have the best chance in parting it out.
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Good grief, the seller took so much flak from the peanut gallery (no one that would put up and order a PPI) that he withdrew the sale. I guess "bring a trailer" has no connotations.
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