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post #1 of 29 Old 02-04-2017, 09:09 PM Thread Starter
 
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up in the air on a used 12C

First off I truly believe the 12C is a great car. I have been in the market for one but really worried about repair costs. I have heard stories of $50k bills and that would just kill any fun of owning this car. Its not clear if an extended warranty can be obtained on a car bought form a private party. Another issue is that independent auto repair shops don't have access to the info to service the car and therefore locked into dealership for service. There is not a local dealer (San Diego area) and would need to go to the Newport Beach Dealer - not very convenient.


do current owners worry about excessive repair costs? That looks like it may be negatively impacting vehicle values compared to a 458.


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post #2 of 29 Old 02-04-2017, 09:38 PM
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Welcome to the Board!

The 12C is truly an incredible machine and has no equal for even for twice the money! It is destined to go down in history as the greatest super car bargain of the century.

You can purchase an extended warranty if you purchase from a private party, the stipulation is that the dealer will require a pre-warranty inspection to be completed first for approximately 1700.00.
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It should also be noted that some dealers will discount the inspection if you end up purchasing the warranty through them (check with your dealer). A PPI with a McLaren dealer is a must for a car without a warranty, as you will be required to fix anything they find wrong before they will issue a warranty. That's really one of the big reasons prices for 12cs are running ~ $10k-$15k less at independent dealers vs a McLaren dealer. Of course, if the party you're buying from already has the warranty on the car then the balance of the term will transfer to you and you don't have to worry about any of this.

My total costs over 3 years of ownership (had I not had a warranty) would have totaled about $6500-$7500 which isn't bad and less than I paid for the extended warranty. That said, I will be extending it "just in case".

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Call Joe (service manager) at Newport McLaren. He is very helpful. Or Jeramy (sales manager). They might have a car, come close to a price for you and then no hassle. The them Scott (2014 Titanium Spider) sent you)
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Do you have your eye on a particular car? At a McLaren dealer, or independent dealer?

I bought my car from an independent dealer. Before the purchase, I floated the VIN around, and a good Samaritan on this forum checked the VIN with his dealer -- who said it was a good car. Indeed it was a good car, no prior engine or transm. issues.

But b/c I was buying from an Indy, I suspected there would be hidden error-codes. And sure enough, there were! It would take appr. 150 miles for them to light, so I had no idea after my test drive. Long story, short, got everything sorted at McL Houston and nothing serious; these cars just have to be sorted and serviced correctly. For example, wrong antifreeze used at indy. One code error was faulty/malfunction CATS. Free replacement due to federal law, but I suspect indy just wanted to avoid the issue. Bottom line: You may face a serious, hidden issue from any car (Ferrari, Lambo, McL, etc.), but try to check the VIN, and if you buy from an Indy, plan on a quick service at a McL dealer to double check for any issues.

I took more risk going with the Indy, but it was the color combo I wanted. If I had to do over, I would hope for a dealer car with a warranty, just for additional peace of mind.

I did spend an extra 5k on issues, but no matter, my car is great !
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I have owned my 2012 MP4-12c coupe for over 2 years now and love it! My bills would have been around 6-8k mark (Canadian Dollars) if I did not have the warranty. I had my windshield crack a few months ago for no reason I think it was a pressure crack and Mclaren covered this fully after some back and forth. I will be purchasing the extended warranty from the dealer for $12,500 plus the beautiful 13% tax for 2 more years. Anyone know how many years you can keep extending with Mclaren and than what about aftermarket?
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I have heard stories of $50k bills
I haven't. I've heard of rare cases where McLaren paid tens of thousands of dollars to cover defects under warranty, but that's a $0K bill to the owner.

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I have owned my 2012 MP4-12c coupe for over 2 years now and love it! My bills would have been around 6-8k mark (Canadian Dollars) if I did not have the warranty. I had my windshield crack a few months ago for no reason I think it was a pressure crack and Mclaren covered this fully after some back and forth. I will be purchasing the extended warranty from the dealer for $12,500 plus the beautiful 13% tax for 2 more years. Anyone know how many years you can keep extending with Mclaren and than what about aftermarket?
12 years (minus a day) is the maximum.
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If you're considering buying a $150,000+ car, it shouldn't be too much of an issue throwing in the ~$8-9k for an inspection and warranty if you are worried about big repair bills. Given the cost of McLaren replacement parts and the "what ifs" of a major component failure, the warranty is a nice comfort to have.
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Just buy a nice low mileage one with warranty.

Checkout mine I the for sale section. It's under warranty and only has 3,000 miles.
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458's may be as expensive or more to repair with as high probability of something going wrong. The 12c is a very reliable car imo. Try and get a warranty if you concerned. I currently have warranty and thinking it may not be worth it to extend cause I am betting the car will continue to be reliable.
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458's may be as expensive or more to repair with as high probability of something going wrong. The 12c is a very reliable car imo. Try and get a warranty if you concerned. I currently have warranty and thinking it may not be worth it to extend cause I am betting the car will continue to be reliable.
i guess you go to Vegas because it appears you like to gamble.
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you are gambling buying the warranty in perpetuity as well. at 5k+ a year on in warranty costs it will start to add up quickly. Its a bet either way. The warranty company is betting it will make money on us.

Now if i had a P1 you bet i would be getting the warranty for as long as they offered it. cause what is 5k (assuming thats all they change for a p1) in relation to $2m. I think everyone has to look at it and see if it makes sense for you. I've had good luck w my car and no indication to have concerns. Of the stories of repairs being high most were high as the dealer was covering them. If everyone was paying out of pocket i think you would see more realistic repair numbers and work around fixes like what we have seen recently w the trans. (40k replacement vs. $5 fix in sealant). Its all speculation... but i dont think these cars are any less reliable than a 458 or huracan where several of their owners own their cars w/oi concern out of warranty.

I haven't decided yet... my warranty is good through Aug right now. Just providing my perspective i think these are largely solid / reliable cars for what they are (supercars).
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i guess you go to Vegas because it appears you like to gamble.
If he doesn't gamble, he should: probably the luckiest person in the world to have a very reliable McLaren!

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I don't understand why anyone would roll the dice with the warranty being available to them. Yes, I agree that the $5,000.00 is quite a chunk of change for warranty, but it certainly gives me peace of mind while driving down the road. We have to realize that we are in a piece of machinery and each and every day we are putting stress on specific parts of this giant machine... Something, at some point, is bound to break! I've owned my car for just under two months and it's already getting warranty work done now. The common air bag sensor failure and tail light condensation is occurring on my 12C. I bet if I was out of warranty, the air bag sensor replacement would be a couple thousand and the tail lights are probably high priced too! I would be willing to bet that this would already equal to or more expensive than my warranty cost.

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