[ergoproxy]

from my 458. No, not the depriciation. After a 1000 mile weekend I was half-deaf and walking like a old quarterback. It called forth memories of my 911 turbos. In fact I miss them. Especially the turbo s, a man for all seasons with more torque than the Aventador.

I'm happy to step forward now and then to defend the 458. It's easy. But anyone who says it is a daily driver is kidding themselves. At this point I'd happily swap it for a 430 Scud and an M5.

Owners of the above cars, can I expect better from the 12C? I enjoy a certain rawness but am hoping for much more comfort and versatility.

[AugustWest]

You'll get it in spades.

I've driven a 12C all day and come out fresh as a daisy (in fairness, I don't have similar long-term experience in a 458, to compare to).

However - I drove e39s (540i MSport 6-Speeds) for a decade/300K miles and I can honestly say a long trip in a 12C is actually LESS taxing than that.

...now a day driving at Willow Springs might be different!

[andy c]

6 x 20 minute sessions at a very fast track in the UK with a Mclaren development driver as shotgun using 3 tanks of fuel at 5.4 MPG.Then comfort mode home for 230 miles ,just as comfortable as my Bentley,no kidding its a breeze

[roundincircles]

550 miles with one stop for take away coffee ( we have a portable toilet in the MP12 care of MSO) NO PROBLEM for my wife or the driver.......truly a long distance car that can do raw on track or the public road.

When I tested the 458 the seats came across as very good but I only did two hours. The salesman said there was not a toilet option.

[uid0]

Originally Posted by roundincircles

550 miles with one stop for take away coffee ( we have a portable toilet in the MP12 care of MSO) NO PROBLEM for my wife or the driver.......truly a long distance car that can do raw on track or the public road.

When I tested the 458 the seats came across as very good but I only did two hours. The salesman said there was not a toilet option.

You *stopped* for coffee? You mean you didn't opt-in for the MSO espresso machine?

[Markjayw]

It is a comfy car, very quiet, very fast. Even though I am not looking for this kind of car, sounds like you are.

[roundincircles]

Originally Posted by uid0

You *stopped* for coffee? You mean you didn't opt-in for the MSO espresso machine?

I confess I'm addicted to Costa

[Ramy]

Originally Posted by roundincircles

I confess I'm addicted to Costa

Hmm..

Autoblog | Fiat 500L to launch with world's first in-car coffee maker option

[gripforce-mclaren]

No 1K mi drive here but a few months back, my friend with 458 and I did a 300mi. road trip and he swore he'd never take italia for any road trip as oppose to I've done a few more long road trips afterwards. I'd rather take MP4 for a long road trip than my other rides CLS63 and Cayenne Turbo and I'm not kidding.

[Markjayw]

Originally Posted by gripforce-mclaren

No 1K mi drive here but a few months back, my friend with 458 and I with MP4 did a 500mi. round trip from LA to Vegas. He swore he'd never take italia for any road trip as oppose to I've done a few more LA-Vegas trips afterwards. I'd rather take MP4 for a long road trip than my other rides CLS63 and Cayenne Turbo and I'm not kidding.

Neither your friend, nor the thread OP probably did not have the race seats? They are the best 458 seat period for comfort. The normal seats are crap, and Daytona and Diamond are just different insert patterns.

1000 mile road trip? Why not drive your Lexus, Bentley, or RR? Or maybe your Denali?

[HyperMac954]

Driving to LA from SF on friday, back sunday. Longest I've done roundtrip in the 12C - about 800 miles in 48 hours - I'll let you know. But I have over 8100 miles on the clock, and it is WAY more comfortable than my Lambo or Cayman were, and more comfortable than the X3.

[6th element]

1000KM in 30 hours, longest for me so far. Got back and wife said "you must be exhausted". Not really, I replied, but should have lied as she then put me to work.

[ergoproxy]

Originally Posted by Markjayw

Neither your friend, nor the thread OP probably did not have the race seats? They are the best 458 seat period for comfort. The normal seats are crap, and Daytona and Diamond are just different insert patterns.

1000 mile road trip? Why not drive your Lexus, Bentley, or RR? Or maybe your Denali?

True, I don't have the race seats. Not that they would help with noise and ride on certain surfaces, but I hear good things. They look cool and save weight too.

Thanks to all for informative replies.

[Markjayw]

Originally Posted by ergoproxy

True, I don't have the race seats. Not that they would help with noise and ride on certain surfaces, but I hear good things. They look cool and save weight too.

Thanks to all for informative replies.

Select "Race" mode, and push shock button on steering wheel, this is too harsh a ride for you? Did you get cruise? Most 458's skip this option, mine will not.

[ergoproxy]

Originally Posted by Markjayw

Select "Race" mode, and push shock button on steering wheel, this is too harsh a ride for you? Did you get cruise? Most 458's skip this option, mine will not.

That mode feels great chewing over bumps on twisty town roads but at hour 5 one feels more foolish than titillated.

I got cruise, audio, adaptive headlights, and haven't needed lift..yet