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post #1 of 18 Old 11-28-2016, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
 
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570S & 570GT Thoughts and Impressions

Hey all, past friday was my opportunity to drive the 570s and 570gt back to back for the entire day. First time driving a mclaren for me or any supercar for that matter. First impressions were the ease, having only driven a manual car automatic gearboxes take away so much effort, especially if they are so smooth as the one in the mclaren. In no time your driving in 7th gear...and over the speedlimit

Things I liked:
- The SPEEDD, how fast you can go when you quickly want to overtake a car on the highway or a quick acceleration on the empty road.
- Comfort, it takes bumps like a champ, super comfortable seats...didn't like how all the buttons were sort of next to the seat, hard to access and figure out what you were doing
- The different modes, i love the different style rev and speed counters on the screen, track being my favorite ofc.
- the looks, everyone looks at you, takes fotos, and the smiles!
- exhaust, i really liked the sound of the car. i haven't experienced enough cars or i just didnt hear it but didnt really hear much turbo noise but i loved the shifts, up and down

I didn't like:
- Brakes, it takes some time before the bite and you can break. I was not super impressed as i thought i would by the stopping power. maybe i didnt press it in enough or i just don't realize how fast i actually was breaking
- rear vision in the GT, the S had much better rearview mirror view, the GT has it almost completely blocked and i am fairly tall 6'2(190cm)
- loved the rest

S vs GT
personally i would go for the S anyday of the week. the S had the sports exhaust and the GT a 'normal' exhaust. you could definitely hear a difference between the two, hard to describe but the S sounded much more aggressive, the GT sounded hollow? both sounded great as i touched upon.
- the S had ceramics and the GT had steels, definitely a solid difference. felt much better with the ceramics
- as touched upon the GT had poor rear visibility, we drove though amsterdam so seeing bikers ect. is much more difficult
- not that im in the position for such a car, but i don't think the 'boot' has such a great advantage, sure a bit more storage but do you really need it? im not sure
- the rides itself, i can't feel a difference in suspension. honestly i didnt even feel a difference between normal and track mode, dutch roads are WAYY to good for that.
- you definitely notice the difference in power IMO, i feel the gt might even lack some power as driver. as driver i didnt feel too much pull when accelerating in the GT, S more but still less than i expected.
- So for me the S is the winner, i like the looks more (unlike the majority who loves the window), i like the increase in power, the better sound (might be purely sports exhaust related). in the end they are super similar (and the S is cheaper)


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Brakes do require more effort than most are used to. However, given the right amount pressure, they are exceptional.
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I didn't like:
- Brakes, it takes some time before the bite and you can break. I was not super impressed as i thought i would by the stopping power. maybe i didnt press it in enough or i just don't realize how fast i actually was breaking
Did you notice much difference between the 570 and the GT's? I've driven both but not back to back, I probably found the steel ( on the 540 ) required a bit less of a push then the 570's carbon ceramics but the gap between drives was a weeks rather than minutes! I was interested to read what you said about rear visibility too, for me that's one of the things that makes the 540/570 so usable daily, you can actually see out the back.
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All valid comments. Wrt the braking they are good but they need a different application. I remember my first test drive when I nearly rolled into the back of three cars while at lights simply because I wasn't pressing the pedal hard/far enough.
Glad you had fun - something to aim for!!
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The day I took delivery of my new 570S I thought that I was going to run into a brick wall behind the dealership. The Carbon Ceramic Brakes are extremely effective; however there is approximately a ¼” of pedal travel before the brakes begin to grab and a slightly more than usual amount of pressure is required.


I was told that McLaren engineers designed the brake this way to ensure that a firm steady pressure was applied.


This is a technic that you learn to adopt to rather quickly; the real problem begins when you get out of the 570 and jump into the family luxury sedan and your wife accuses you of trying to launch her through the windshield!


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so if you had to choose.....the S or the GT??
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so if you had to choose.....the S or the GT??
I'll add it to the main post as it seems logical to add a comparison!

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the GT should have had the steel brakes vs the carbon on the S.
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3 weeks ago I had the awesome opportunity to drive some hot laps at MSR Houston (thanks to McLaren Houston) in a 570GT, 650s and 570s. On the track the GT felt a little more "floaty" (Track/Track/Esc Dyn) and you could really feel the difference between the 570S and the GT. The GT was softer and less precise than the 570S. I didn't really feel any significant difference in braking between the 2 even though GT had steel brakes. Driven on the street, the GT would be more compliant, but my preference is the more focused experience in the 570S.

Off topic, I felt I had to work harder with the 650S on that particular track compared to the 570S with respect to steering input. MSR Houston is a fairly short track, where aero comes less into play. There is one straight (back straight) where you can touch close to 160. With the aero of the 650S it felt a little less twitchy under braking than the 570S. Interestingly, a formula Mazda pro driver (son of the McLaren dealership owner) is a full 5 seconds a lap faster in a 570S vs the 650S on that particular track. That's a stunning number. I actually had to ask him twice to ensure that I was hearing him correctly. Given the nature of the Kart-like track, the lack of aero needed, and the fact that he likes a loose set up, he is way quicker in the 570S - on that particular track. All of the pro drivers there felt the P0 Corsas on the 650S chunk up and lose performance. Anyway didn't mean to hijack the original post.
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3 weeks ago I had the awesome opportunity to drive some hot laps at MSR Houston (thanks to McLaren Houston) in a 570GT, 650s and 570s. On the track the GT felt a little more "floaty" (Track/Track/Esc Dyn) and you could really feel the difference between the 570S and the GT. The GT was softer and less precise than the 570S. I didn't really feel any significant difference in braking between the 2 even though GT had steel brakes. Driven on the street, the GT would be more compliant, but my preference is the more focused experience in the 570S.

Off topic, I felt I had to work harder with the 650S on that particular track compared to the 570S with respect to steering input. MSR Houston is a fairly short track, where aero comes less into play. There is one straight (back straight) where you can touch close to 160. With the aero of the 650S it felt a little less twitchy under braking than the 570S. Interestingly, a formula Mazda pro driver (son of the McLaren dealership owner) is a full 5 seconds a lap faster in a 570S vs the 650S on that particular track. That's a stunning number. I actually had to ask him twice to ensure that I was hearing him correctly. Given the nature of the Kart-like track, the lack of aero needed, and the fact that he likes a loose set up, he is way quicker in the 570S - on that particular track. All of the pro drivers there felt the P0 Corsas on the 650S chunk up and lose performance. Anyway didn't mean to hijack the original post.




WOW, a 5 second same driver comparison difference is very impressive!


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I got a chance to drive the 570S on the track last weekend and the GT around town...while I love them both I personally would get a GT for what I would use it for- long trips, the supple ride etc. I find that the rear trunk area will be helpful for me and my wife on road trips.

If I could only get one, it would probably be the S because of the track-focused or sharper nature. the GT is a good compliment to my P1 or 675 type cars.
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You can get the sport exhaust and CCB on the GT though, can't you? In theory the performance and dynamics should be about the same when you check all the right option boxes, no?

Personally I'd get a GT. Just like the looks better. Wish I could find a used one in that cool dark blue launch color. Maybe in 6 months some inventory will show up.
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You can get the sport exhaust and CCB on the GT though, can't you? In theory the performance and dynamics should be about the same when you check all the right option boxes, no?
No.

The suspension is softer on the GT. Not sure if there are also other differences that can not be optioned away.
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Steering rack is also 2% slower to react to steering inputs.
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Not to mention the additional weight
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